| Molecular Nutrition was founded by William (Bill) Llewelyn, one of the most famous writers on steroids and anabolic supplementation. Molecular came out of the gates quick with hardcore products! |
Molecular Nutrition was founded by William (Bill) Llewelyn, one of the most famous writers on steroids and anabolic supplementation. Molecular came out of the gates quick with hardcore products like Boldione and Viratase, but recently blew the lid off the supplement industry with the release of their 1T-Ethergels. Many experts have proclaimed that this is the first real legal steroid! Suddenly, Molecular Nutrition has flown to the forefront of supplement innovation and technology.
 The Interview!
Bodybuilding.com: You have written the most comprehensive book on steroids, Anabolics 2002, and write many steroid columns and articles for magazines. How did you learn all this stuff about steroids? They don't exactly teach you all this in college.
William Llewelyn: Yeah, unfortunately they don't have courses on this in college. I probably would have spent more time there if they did. In some regards this put me on a level playing field though, as I didn't miss out by not specializing in this area in school. It is a subject you have to really educate yourself on, which means spending a lot of time in a medical library. It does help to have a background in the sciences of course, although I admit I do not. I just try to make up for my lack of a formal background with a good amount of persistence.
William Llewelyn - The Founder Of Molecular Nutrition
Bodybuilding.com: When did you first become interested in them?
William Llewelyn: When I was around 17, and had first read Dan Duchaine's Underground Steroid Handbook II. His point of view was so contrary to the way the general public looked at anabolic steroids. This was around the time they became controlled substances, and there was a lot of negative attention in the media. I became focused on getting through the hype and learning the true actions and consequences of these drugs. Of course a lot of this had to do with my own desire to take them.
Bodybuilding.com: So have you taken steroids yourself?
William Llewelyn: I guess I wouldn't be fooling anyone if I tried to convince you I never used them. Yes, of course.
Bodybuilding.com: How do you feel about steroids being controlled substances?
William Llewelyn: It was unavoidable really. Let's face it; if you have a thriving black market for a class of prescription drugs, you need to do something about it. Those advocating we abolish these laws are essentially looking for steroids to be OTC. That's not going to happen. What I do disagree with, though, is that doctors cannot prescribe these agents to you. You can choose to have surgical pec implants and it is fine, but you can't take a drug to help you build actual healthy muscle tissue. This I just don't understand at all.
Bodybuilding.com: Please tell us more about your background.
William Llewelyn: Well I was born and raised on Long Island, NY. As I mentioned I was interested in anabolics since I was a teenager, but for a very long time it remained just a hobby. I did a little writing here and there. I published a small newsletter, The Athletes' Pharmaceutical Update, for a while. In 1997 I built a website dedicated to steroid profiles and pictures. I was the first to build an extensive database like this, and to this day I still don't think any are as well done as that one was. Dan Duchaine actually wrote in an issue of his Dirty Dieting newsletter that it was his favorite steroid site on the net. It was wild. It wasn't until 1999, though, that I was able to work full-time in the industry, when I took a position at MassQuantities to manage their product line.
Bodybuilding.com: What did you do before working in the bodybuilding industry?
William Llewelyn: I worked with computers for a number of companies in Manhattan including People Magazine, Showtime, Simon & Schuster, even the good old accountants at Arthur Andersen.
Bodybuilding.com: How did you get involved with that?
William Llewelyn: Oh man, I was the biggest computer geek as a kid, you have no idea. My mother could never pry me away from the damn machine. I barely went out, and when I did it was usually to swap games over someone else's house. My friends still make fun of me about it. This all changed when I was about 16 though, and got arrested for "theft of services" (making free phone calls).
Bodybuilding.com: You were arrested at 16 for making free phone calls?
William Llewelyn: Yeah, Telecom (MCI now) got really upset at the way I was using one of their pin card systems. My lines were tapped and everything, it was too much. You have to remember that this was before the internet, and when we wanted to swap files we'd have to get on the modem and call one another. With all the long distance and international charges, "Phreaking" was an important skill. You would never be able to afford the phone bill otherwise.
Bodybuilding.com: What ultimately came out of this?
William Llewelyn: Well with a 16 year old kid whose crime was sitting in front of a computer and making phone calls, the judge was understandably pretty light on me. A small fine and community service was about it. With the arrest my phreaking days were over though, so I actually started to make it out into the sunlight from time to time. About a year later I was turned-on to weight lifting, and my life has taken a considerably different path since.
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Bodybuilding.com: Tell me about how Molecular Nutrition was started?
William Llewelyn: I started it last summer after I left my partnership with another supplement company. I don't want to even talk about the specifics of that relationship. I'll just say it was a nightmare, and I am still dealing with it today. I don't remain angry about it though, and try to look at it as a hard-earned life lesson about choosing who you trust carefully. Anyway, I had to get out on my own and start my own company, so I took my savings and started Molecular. I was putting the money away for a house, but went with the company instead. I know I made the right decision now, but it is tough putting things on the line like that. You know the saying about taking risks though.
Bodybuilding.com: What are your feelings about the success of the company so far?
William Llewelyn: Things have been going absolutely great, and I honestly couldn't be more excited. I thought it would have taken a couple of years to get where we are right now. Sometimes it doesn't even seem real, and I expect to wake up on a train somewhere commuting to the city for work.
Bodybuilding.com: Why do you believe Molecular has been so successful?
William Llewelyn: Well I'd like to think our products are a big part of it. I didn't start the company to just sell the same supplements as everyone else. Our launch products were my inventions and designs specifically, and they are among the most potent prohormones available. Our boldenone precursor Boldione, a.k.a. 1-4-Andro, for example is more resistant to "first-pass" metabolism by the liver than any other prohormone on the market. It has about triple the oral bioavailability of 1-androstenediol! Then there is our DHT precursor 3-Alpha, which has a conversion rate of over 40%. You will not find a more potent androgen. We've also introduced the first aromatase inhibitor to the supplement market, Viratase. Some actually find that this product is too potent, lowering estrogen so much it interferes with gains. The products speak for themselves really, which was key to our early success I'm sure. Our marketing is also very honest, and I think people really appreciate it. I know I'm tired of seeing companies lie and misrepresent the facts to sell products. It drives me nuts to see some of the claims. For the record 1-Testosterone DOES convert to dihydrotestosterone, it WILL suppress testosterone production, and you will NEVER get anywhere near 100% bioavailability unless a needle is involved. Geez.
Bodybuilding.com: What are your future plans with Molecular Nutrition?
William Llewelyn: Really I just want to continue going in the direction we are going. I want us to have an established line of sport supplements, recognized and trusted by consumers as being amongst the best products in the industry. We are not rushing anything to market for the sake of increasing our sales totals though, and I will continue to take my time researching and developing only the best products I can. Slowly but surely Molecular will get there.
Bodybuilding.com: The 1-T Ethergels are a supplement revolution and may be the most powerful legal muscle builder EVER. Tell us a little about them. Also, how did you come up with the idea for them?
William Llewelyn: 1-T Ethergels is an oil-dissolved, ether-modified softgel of 1-testosterone. The idea stems from the drug Andriol actually. To give you some background, in 1939 scientists realized that a natural steroid hormone like testosterone was useless when taken orally. The liver destroys it too efficiently for much to make it into the bloodstream, and what does slip through is rapidly metabolized. Drug developers searched for decades for ways to make testosterone orally active. Andriol softgels finally hit the market in the 1980's, and provided the first, and still only, effective oral testosterone replacement. Its design allows for a high level of lymphatic absorption (with the oil), a route which bypasses the "first pass" through the liver. Higher doses in powder form were not the same thing, and regular testosterone pills or capsules were likewise never sold on the drug market. Before the Ethergels we were stuck in the 1930's, trying to make prohormones work orally by taking them in high doses. It didn't work very well back then, and won't hold back the true innovation we have here now. I believe my design will truly change the face of the prohormone market in the months and years to come.
Bodybuilding.com: They are really new, but what kind of response have you gotten so far from people who have used them? Any examples of results?
William Llewelyn: The feedback on the public message boards now has been pretty amazing so far. One guy actually gained 16 pounds in 4 weeks, and mind you he has taken other 1-test products before. He actually said he made less progress on 400mg weekly of Deca. Another guy was up 5 lbs only 12 days, and several others are reporting excellent strength increases, fat loss, and crazy pumps. It is just kicking in for the first round of customers and people are already starting to rave about it. I see now why testosterone was never put into a regular capsule.
Bodybuilding.com: What do you recommend that people stack with them? What should you NOT stack them with? What type of dosage do you recommend?
William Llewelyn: Since there shouldn't be estrogen conversion with 1-testosterone, some type of an estrogenic prohormone would help if you are looking for mass. It is an excellent stack with our Boldione (boldenone precursor), or even a 4-Andro product. There is nothing you really shouldn't stack it with I guess, as you can always find a way to justify mixing different prohormones. As for dose, I'm finding 8 caps (200mg) to be very effective if you are taking it alone and are looking for a strong anabolic effect. You could go a little more or less depending on what you are looking for, and whether or not you are stacking.
Bodybuilding.com: Do you have any other new and exciting products you are working on?
William Llewelyn: Hell yeah! I have a number of things in the works. Short term we will introduce the rest of the Ethergel line, which should include a 4-Andro, a 19-norandro, and a 3-Alpha product. The latter one I am especially excited about. 3-Alpha, our exclusive 3-alpha isomer of 5alpha-androstanediol, is a tremendously potent androgenic prohormone right now, even though its oral bioavailability is very low. I can't wait to see what it is like in a softgel. We'll also have a low-carb protein in a few weeks, which is a sucralose-sweetened blend of CFM whey isolate and micellar casein. It will be the highest quality sustained-release protein out there. On the drawing board there are a number of other really interesting things I'm going to keep close to the vest at this time. I wouldn't want to give anyone else a head-start now; it's a cutthroat industry.
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